Am I a heroine? Are you?

A Roamer Interview

The very best thing about my 48-year career was the wonderful, lifelong friendships I’ve made. And one of the best of those is the friendship with my dear friend Jeanne, who was my first “corporate” boss. She is ethical, kind, brilliant, and funny, and we hit it off instantly. We have been close friends for almost 40 years, and even when we haven’t seen each other for a long time, there is no re-entry period when we finally get together; it’s as if we’d just picked up from the day before.

So imagine my delight when she introduced me to her friend and fellow coach Susanna Liller. Susanna is an author, school founder, and life coach who helps women find the confidence to get more out of life and to become the heroines of their own stories. By reimagining the archetype of the Hero’s Journey as the Heroine’s Journey, #theheroinesjourney, she provides a framework for women to, in the words of Joseph Campbell, “find their bliss.”

My lovely new friend Susanna

Jeanne had shared this blog with her friend Susanna, who became interested in learning how a couple from Oklahoma ended up living in the south of France. We had an introductory Zoom chat and hit it off immediately, so Susanna invited me to be interviewed for her YouTube channel, The Heroine’s Journey. 

I agreed, and we set a date. It was an informal interview, and it felt just like a conversation between new friends. I mean, who doesn’t like to tell their story?! When it went live, I’ll be honest, my first thought was that I didn’t like how I looked. But then as I watched and listened, I realized that it’s actually a rather compelling story. Phil and I have succeeded in “finding our bliss,” and if that can inspire anyone else, we’re happy.

So. . .here is the video.


I don’t feel at all like a heroine–but as Susanna teaches, we each are the heroes/heroines of our own stories. In the comments section, I’d love to hear your thoughts about your own Hero’s or Heroine’s Journey!

8 thoughts on “The Heroine’s Journey

  1. Leslie Metheney says:

    Your journey is inspiring and helps me as Russ and I push forward on our own. Thank you for being a leading light!

  2. Wonderful podcast, Sandy!
    It was great to revisit your story and learn a bit more about the Sandy & Phil Great Adventure.
    Thomas & Nancy

  3. I too am fortunate to have a sweet and inspiring connection with Susanna. At 59, I am on the brink of giving up a beloved home based business, selling my house and living my dream “wanderlust” life. She and I were chatting vaguely about her friend who found her way to S. of France. We realized that a common thread was the words of wisdom from Lynne Martin in her book Home Sweet Anywhere: How We Sold our House, Created a New Life and Saw the World. The morning you spoke to her about it was the morning I told her about it. WOW Universe! Also, I had some Airbnb guests from Montpelier in my hippie bus at Happy Hippie Lane Maine, my summer vacation rental adventure, who I visited when I was volunteering around Europe and N. Africa. Hope to chat with you one day Sandy! Enjoying your blog and the nudges forward 🙂 Cary Huggins

    • OMG, what a small world, Cary! Thanks so much for your comments; clearly we’re meant to meet at some point. Meanwhile, all the best to you and best wishes for your new adventure–and if it includes Montpellier, please let me know!

  4. Lynn Jones says:

    Just finished watching the Podcast and throughly enjoyed every minute of it! The interview brought out all of the questions that I have already asked or those I forgot to ask. I knew that you two would love the adventures in France and would become part of the community in record time. I’m so glad that everything is working out so well for you!

    Now my traveling juices are bubbling so hopefully in the fall we can make it across the pond. Thanks so much for sharing your experiences and give Phil a big hug!
    Miss you but wouldn’t have it any other way!
    Lynn Jones

  5. Joni Koerner says:

    Thank you, Sandy, for sharing your experience with the world. I feel so lucky that I got to go through so much of your journey with you and
    Phil. You inspire me everyday to take adventures in my life. Love you.

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